Examining a False Claim regarding Female Leadership

In our series on women's roles in the church, Let's look at a popular argument for promoting female pastors.

In our discussion of women's roles, let’s look at
1 Timothy 2 (see the full passage below the devotion).

In this chapter about instructions for worship, verses 11-12 say, “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” 

Before explaining this passage biblically, let's address the egalitarian claim that this rule only applied to Ephesian women (where Timothy was leading the church). They insist Paul gave this rule that contradicted Scripture because the pagan goddess Artemis had influenced Ephesians to exalt female leadership.

Problems with this claim

✔ Nothing in the wording of this passage presents it as cultural or temporary. To hold this egalitarian belief, you must believe our all-knowing God divinely inspired Paul to write something that would be misunderstood throughout church history. 

To better understand cultural commands, see Head Coverings.

Paul gave similar instructions to the Corinthian church, where Artemis worship was not as significant as in Ephesus. And Paul said his instructions applied to “all the congregations of the Lord’s people” (1 Corinthians 14:33-36).

✔ I read multiple articles about Ephesian culture, and the prominence of female leadership in culture was only mentioned in egalitarian articles. See Note #1.

✔ Egalitarians contradict themselves. In 1 Timothy 2, they claim Paul was opposing the culture, and in 1 Corinthians 14, they claim Paul was accommodating the culture. 

More on this passage in next Friday's post.

In answering a reader's questions about this post, I wrote Egalitarians Actually Hold a Low View of Women and Scripture. You might find it helpful.

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I encourage you to read Was Submission Paul's Idea?  It addresses submission in marriage, which is different from submission in the church, but it does offer some insights for responding to the argument that submission was Paul's idea. 

To see some of the illogical arguments used to claim women should be pastors, see A Well-Known Pastor Changes His View about Women Pastors.

Notes

1. Description of Ephesian culture from a secular source: In Ephesus, women were primarily seen as wives and mothers. They managed households and were expected to bear children, particularly sons, to continue the family lineage.… Men in Ephesian society were the primary decision-makers. They handled public affairs, made financial decisions, and provided for the family” (source). It seems that women dominated the cult of Artemis, but it doesn't appear that this altered women's roles in the family or the culture at large.

2. Egalitarians claim that Paul's mention of outward adornment in verse 9 is tied to Artemis worshipers who wore jewels and fancy hairstyles. I looked it up in fourteen commentaries, and none of them linked this to Artemis worship. 

3. Egalitarians also claim that Paul mentions childbirth as a further proof that he's basing his rules on Artemis because she was associated with childbirth. I looked this verse up in fourteen commentaries as well, and none of them mentioned the connection between childbirth and Artemis. Paul's reference to Adam and Eve and childbirth is an important element of this passage, which we'll discuss in our next post.

4. “As a variation on the Greek and Roman Artemis, who was the goddess of hunting and archery, the Ephesian version of the goddess' emphasis was on birth and fertility, where she was considered a mother goddess (source). Hundreds of eunuch priests, virgin priestesses, and religious prostitutes served her. Worship rituals were quite erotic” (source). If Artemis worship was behind Paul's commands, he would have things worse than female leadership to address, and he would need to address men as well as women. 

5. Articles on Artemis: 

Artemis of the Ephesians
Artemis - This is a wiki article, but it's very well documented.
Artemis - In this article, scroll down to #4 under ENCYCLOPEDIA to read specifically about the Ephesian Artemis. You'll find no mention of female leadership, childbirth, or outward adornment.
Great Was Artemis of the Ephesians - This article has a reference that says, “The temple of Artemis was massive, and her cult — run entirely by female officials — was the religious centre of the whole area.” But, as stated above, this does not appear to have affected attitudes toward women outside of the temple. I strongly recommend this resource because it offers a wonderful picture of the power of Christianity.
 
The full context 

1 Timothy 2: I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time. 7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—and a true and faithful teacher of the Gentiles. 8 Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or disputing. 9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

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In our series on women's roles in the church, Let's look at a popular argument for promoting female pastors.

In our series on women's roles in the church, Let's look at a popular argument for promoting female pastors.



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4 comments:

  1. I'm sorry, Gale, I don't follow what you are trying to tell us. Are you supporting Paul's assumption that no woman should be a teacher or pastor? If that's the case, why do you write Bible Love Notes? Isn't this a teaching blog? I truly believe that God was writing to the people of that time. The influence of Artemus on the new believers in Christ was harmful to the church in Asia. However, women, in today's world are better educated and, in many cases far more intelligent than men. If the Lord leads them to preach or teach, go for it!

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    1. Hi Rick,
      There's so much more to address on this subject of male and female roles in the church. And I hope you'll bear with me as I address it piece by piece. This is the 4th in the series, and I explained in the first devotion ("Women in Church Leadership: Complementarian or Egalitarian?") that I would be addressing the reason I am a complementarian, but I am comfortable with my online ministry and my books.

      But I'll share a quick answer here and I hope it helps: Most complementarian pastors and teachers have no problem reading women's books or listening to women's podcasts or videos because women like me don't have a position of authority over my readers, neither male nor female. My subscribers can disagree with me publicly in comments and end their free subscription any time they choose.

      I hold no position in their church and I have no authority over them.

      Regarding Artemis, I hope you'll check out the notes in this devotion and click the links to verify what I write. While Artemis leaders were women, historic posts explain that women still held submission roles in the culture. The only people who claim otherwise are the egalitarians who use this false argument to support their view that this command was cultural, not biblical.

      In addition, Rick, no where in the early church are we told that leaders were well-educated or especially intelligent. Christ's disciples certainly were not. And there were just as many intelligent women at that time as there are now. And that's the problem with the egalitarian argument. They actually hold a low view of women during the time of the early church. Instead of realizing this command was part of God's beautiful design which we can fully trust. They claim Paul was limiting born again women as if they wouldn't change their culture views otherwise. But he was putting his full trust in born again men who had immoral influences in the pagan culture as well. This explanation is insulting to women.

      I don't fully understand God's design, but I trust that He knows what is best for me, and I know it has absolutely nothing to do with my intelligence, education, or the bad influences in our present culture.

      So I hope you will bear with me as I take this important teaching step by step. But, as I've already explained, you are free to quit reading my blog now because I have no authority over you and I'm not a leader in your church.

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  2. I love reading your notes because it goes with everything I believe. there has been division in a few churches I had attended and my husband and I stood firm on fact of women not being a pastor. I have heard the argument on Mary mother of Jesus being the first one carrying the gospel because she carried Jesus. I have heard Joel 2:28-32 as well. , and also that it was Pauls desire that women not preach. the only thing Im confused on is does this mean a woman cant teach a sunday school class of women or children?

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    1. Good question, Peg. And I will be covering it in a future post. But to give you a quick answer. The undeniable message in Scripture is that women should not be pastors or elders.

      Beyond that, we are not given detailed specifics, and different churches will hold different positions on those subjects even when they hold the biblical view about pastors and elders.

      I personally don't think a woman should teach a Sunday School class of adult men and women. But I see no problem with a couple team teaching a class on something like marriage. I'll share more on this in future posts, so please bear with me. This is a complex teaching in Scripture, and it will take some months to cover it thoroughly in a 1-minute post each week.

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