tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post1061333477039563603..comments2024-03-23T23:55:50.572-04:00Comments on Bible Love Notes: Scripture vs. The Shack - 5 Ways "The Shack" Contradicts Biblical SalvationGail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-59771788915325833942024-03-23T15:16:44.991-04:002024-03-23T15:16:44.991-04:00Oh my gwash the shock for me is endless! Have been...Oh my gwash the shock for me is endless! Have been loving reading your blog this season. Someone bought the shack for me as a child. I absolutely loved the book. However, as someone who's against false teachings I'm disappointed. The Shack's Jesus says the term "Christian" has nothing to do with Him or His true followers." When you wrote this, I was disappointed with people who have this belief. I believe it stems from ignorance. There's clear Lines in the Bible where God says how 1 can be save.d thank you for this correction. Then this reminds me family and parents should research what spiritual books you gift your kids. Not everyone is worthy.Black Couturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14688599176656963710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-13249003406696090902021-10-19T10:30:39.556-04:002021-10-19T10:30:39.556-04:00I appreciate your questions and the attitude in wh...I appreciate your questions and the attitude in which you ask them.<br /><br />So let's start with the belief that forgiveness doesn't require repentance:<br /><br />The Scriptures listed in section 5 in this devotion clearly explain that repentance is necessary for forgiveness. <br /><br />In regard to the Prodigal Son, he did repent when he returned. He clearly explained to his father that he was wrong. <br /><br />But you are right in saying that we can forgive someone who doesn't repent. But that doesn't mean they are forgiven by God.<br /><br />When we forgive someone who doesn't repent, we are freeing ourselves from bitterness. The person who committed the sin is still guilty of their sin because the Lord only forgives those who repent.<br /><br />For example, I can forgive a murderer for killing a friend or family member, but he is still guilty of the crime before God and before the government. <br /><br />God's love is incredible because He gives all people the opportunity to be forgiven and He promises to forgive the repentant no matter what they've done. But His love is pure. He will not forgive nor save the unrepentant. If love has no standards, then it isn't love. <br /><br />In addition, if God forgives unrepentant men, then everyone is saved because it is sin that separates us from God. And if all men were saved, heaven would contain just as much evil and unbelief as earth. <br /><br /><br /><br />Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-73403520250342662082021-10-19T01:57:06.373-04:002021-10-19T01:57:06.373-04:00Hello there, maam. Hoping you could read this. I a...Hello there, maam. Hoping you could read this. I am open for refutation because I honor those who have read the Bible more before me. I am still a "growing child" from being born again years ago.<br /><br />Paul Young believes all are forgiven but also all will be saved.<br /><br />For me, all are forgiven but not all will be saved. Because I think salvation requires repentance. But forgiveness does not require someone to repent or even be aware that they are doing something bad. <br />Just like how the father of the prodigal son forgave the prodigal son even before the son came back home. The father, even though, the son did not know he is doing something wrong in the course of his journey outside his home, back home, his father would always think about him and forgive him immediately. I can say this as implying to how the father welcomed the son in the grandest and most loving way possible.<br /><br />Will you not forgive someone who stole from you just because they did not ask forgiveness? I would forgive him but that does not nean he is saved from the consequences of his theft. He must admit that he stole from me and make up for it in genuine manner before I proceed on telling the police to drop the charges and be saved. <br /><br />This is not being self-righteous of me but to apply what I have learned and observed on the Bible. I will never equate it to God’s love because His love is uncomparable.<br />I would like to know your response. Thank you.<br />The WanderBoyzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11958292676905124930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-52029956370161384202017-11-27T23:13:41.411-05:002017-11-27T23:13:41.411-05:00Hi Ingie,
The author has written a Bible study to ...Hi Ingie,<br />The author has written a Bible study to go along with the movie. <br /><br />He speaks in churches about the views represented in The Shack. <br /><br />He describes his characters as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. <br /><br />He believes all men will be saved whether they love Christ or reject Christ. <br /><br />He has written a theology book released last year explaining the theology present in the Shack. <br /><br />In this article, I list direct quotes from the book that say the opposite of what the Bible says. <br /><br />Thousands of professing Christians are defending this movie despite the fact that it misrepresents the Lord. <br /><br />Thousands of people are getting their view of God from this movie...just read the a few Amazon reviews. <br /><br />I believe the key word is: deception.<br />Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-42165324885097415842017-11-27T20:14:38.487-05:002017-11-27T20:14:38.487-05:00I supposed it was just a movie, not a Bible study....I supposed it was just a movie, not a Bible study. The movie 'The Ten Commandments' was not 100% biblically accurate, but it's an epic, and can provide mature believers an opportunity to share sound Bible "doctrine" with unchurched movie fans.ingie vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806898508094532725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-83543933646305650302017-11-27T20:09:14.464-05:002017-11-27T20:09:14.464-05:00Key word: "FICTIONAL"Key word: "FICTIONAL"ingie vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806898508094532725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-48530873026375123212017-08-13T16:20:29.585-04:002017-08-13T16:20:29.585-04:00Hi unknown,
I'm not sure what you are saying i...Hi unknown,<br />I'm not sure what you are saying in #1-3, but in #4, I agree that Christians will come from every tribe and tongue and nation. But they will repent and turn to Christ. People who live and die believing in false gods will not be saved according to Scripture. <br /><br />And #5 - Scripture clearly tells us that only those who repent and turn to Jesus will be forgiven and saved. <br /><br />I'm glad you do not believe in universal salvation. I don't either. That's why I am concerned with the message of this book and the many people it is deceiving. <br />Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-7261597693238630892017-08-13T10:22:28.801-04:002017-08-13T10:22:28.801-04:001) 2 Peter 2:4-10: talks about children of God and...1) 2 Peter 2:4-10: talks about children of God and the other one ungodly points to nonbelievers who choose their destiny, which is eternal damnation - it does not support to claim that God send some among His children....<br /><br />2) Anyone, anybody, whosoever believes He made they qualified...even chief sinner like Paul, a tax collectors like Matthew and Zaccheius, or a woman caught in the act of adultery...even athiest..<br /><br />3) we can't deny the Christianity evolved into religion overtime...the Christian he had in mind are by affiliation not by relatiion.<br /><br />4) the claim is true - the Gospel is for every tribe, nation and tongue...who believes...<br /><br />5) Maybe quoting 1John 1:2 Jesus the propitiation of believers' sin and not only them but the whole world...<br /><br />even though I made this comments, I myself do not agree with universal salvation, because we are children of God by faith in Jesus - meaning believing Him... Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221243855080686267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-41574832192255824192017-03-26T19:35:31.206-04:002017-03-26T19:35:31.206-04:00Thank you so much for your kind encouragement, Bri...Thank you so much for your kind encouragement, Brittanie.<br />I really appreciate it.Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-53825637900554830232017-03-26T02:09:37.280-04:002017-03-26T02:09:37.280-04:00Gail, thank you so much for your posts. This blog ...Gail, thank you so much for your posts. This blog in general is great to read through. You are so encouraging and INDEED a woman after God's own heart. Reading through your posts, comments, and response to comments, especially ones that are crass and ungodly, you don't just smell of Jesus, you carry the sweet aroma that is His character and that is to be commended. You are so encouraging and it is apparent that you spend time with Jesus and are not just familiar with His Word, but YOUR words and actions are led by the Spirit. Thank you for your contribution. I know how discouraging even one negative, rude comment can be but as I'm sure you know, we are to face many of that if we are truly actively following God's Word. God bless you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11030305306285927796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-12366946125418639772017-03-09T16:06:42.374-05:002017-03-09T16:06:42.374-05:00Thank you for laying out the beliefs portrayed by ...Thank you for laying out the beliefs portrayed by The Shack side by side with scripture! Haven't read the book but was considering seeing the movie. Not now! We need only rely on the Bible for our Christian truths but how deceiving the "worldly" men/women writers can be! Dangerously cloaking the truth!Saved by Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168294518486134315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-26764097845425396442017-03-07T16:03:17.419-05:002017-03-07T16:03:17.419-05:00Hi Hannah,
I'm so glad that God gave you the d...Hi Hannah,<br />I'm so glad that God gave you the discernment to avoid the confusion The Shack causes. Bless you in your new walk with the Lord.<br />Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-42369396799232535812017-03-07T15:09:24.468-05:002017-03-07T15:09:24.468-05:00I was in a service several months ago when the vic...I was in a service several months ago when the vicar held up this book claiming it to be the best book he's read. He said I bet you've all read it, if you haven't you should and lots of hands went up to say they'd read it. I was so grieved I never went back. I'm a young Christian and I wish I'd had the courage and knowledge to speak up. Thank you for doing this.Hannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18374241353549008343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-74992703721046599392017-03-07T11:55:53.919-05:002017-03-07T11:55:53.919-05:00I have also been really sceptical about reading th...I have also been really sceptical about reading this book. There just was something pushing me away from reading it or anything about it. Thank you for sharing wise, biblical based points about all that is stated and portrayed in the wrong light in the book. Thank you for saving many from such untruth, especially young adults like myself. Be blessed!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03110312404311567609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-38093099968239409042017-03-07T10:10:14.565-05:002017-03-07T10:10:14.565-05:00Hi Patti.
It's fiction.
It's fiction that...Hi Patti.<br />It's fiction.<br /><br />It's fiction that has influenced how millions of people view the God of the Bible. Just read some of the Amazon reviews, and you will realize how fully it is doing this.<br /><br />It's fiction that is not using fictional names and it's not portraying fictional characters. It's using the names Trinity, Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit and putting words in their mouths that contradict their Words in Scripture. How would you feel if a movie came out using your name and claiming things about you that contradicted your values and your character. Would you be fine with that because it's fiction. <br /><br />It's fiction that is making people think that the God of the Bible never punishes, never has expectations and never is disappointed when they sin. <br /><br />It's fiction that is making non-believers think that God will save them even if they continue to live a life of unbelief.<br /><br />If that doesn't bother Believers in Jesus, Patti, then I don't get it.<br /><br />Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-17224236233917760192017-03-06T19:01:42.175-05:002017-03-06T19:01:42.175-05:00Its FICTION. Don't hold it in the light of th...Its FICTION. Don't hold it in the light of the Bible. ITS A STORY, its FICTION....GET IT?? patti s.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00293373188010005261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-66420404328344148802017-03-06T17:58:07.132-05:002017-03-06T17:58:07.132-05:00How many TV preachers that we have access to liste...How many TV preachers that we have access to listen to today share and relay similar beliefs like the book? I can think of 3 without even thinking at all.<br />It's all about feeling good about yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-26267196016179727542017-03-05T20:17:56.407-05:002017-03-05T20:17:56.407-05:00It is not bad to ask believers to exercise discern...It is not bad to ask believers to exercise discernment over what we fill or minds with or recommend. It is also not bad to choose to voice a rejection of things that will mislead people. That is not self-righteousness. It's protecting people. I believe that God appoints His church to do that. I know He certainly has appointed me to have my eyes open to things that will harm people, and to speak as necessary. That does not mean that I think I'm better than anyone. I have a pretty healthy dose of reality when I look at who I am... A sinner saved solely by grace through faith in Jesus Christ as both Savior AND Lord. I'm keenly aware of my need. I imagine that anyone posting on here sharing that this will bring people harm and confusion may also have an awareness of the reality of who they are. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02925841009632218442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-32235923868348363042017-03-03T08:41:47.333-05:002017-03-03T08:41:47.333-05:00You just don't get it. That's sad.You just don't get it. That's sad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-69410073664433263192017-02-28T12:54:05.519-05:002017-02-28T12:54:05.519-05:00Thank you for speaking the truth about this book. ...Thank you for speaking the truth about this book. A pastor's wife recommended it to me when it first came out years ago. I was appalled by what I read!Reidland Familyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12788657731470595451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-91997148209880865812017-02-26T13:19:47.459-05:002017-02-26T13:19:47.459-05:00Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You just don'...Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You just don't know how much this means to me. My husband and I were grieved at the content of this book, appalled, and afraid for our believing friends who thought it was great! Thank you again.Bea Baldridgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683558368125864042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-59909556160829241432017-02-25T20:25:21.958-05:002017-02-25T20:25:21.958-05:00I publish comments that disagree with what I'v...I publish comments that disagree with what I've written, but I don't typically publish those that resort to name-calling.<br /><br />The reason I’m publishing this comment is because it’s representative of other Shack supporters I’ve heard from:<br /><br />1. He/She excuses “The Shack” as fiction as if fiction has no influence on people’s hearts and minds. Perhaps he/she doesn’t know that the book has influenced millions of people regarding the character of God. All one needs to do is read a sampling of the 12,000 reviews of the book on Amazon and see how many people have changed their view of God because of The Shack.<br /><br />2. He/She also contradicts her “fiction” argument when she explains the story in terms of God (i.e. “How merciful of God to reach him where he is.”) and defends the god of The Shack.<br />3. He/She says it's a matter of interpretation or perspective whether “The Shack” disagrees with Scripture even though the quotes and Scriptures listed in the article are clearly contradictory. <br />4. He/She calls those who criticize The Shack self-righteous Pharisees. And I’m pretty sure her last comment is directed at detractors of The Shack (i.e. hate mongers who are causing people to turn from God).<br /><br />Her response makes me more convinced than ever that Christians need to approach The Shack with greater discernment.<br /><br />As Scripture says, we should be guarding our hearts (Proverbs 4:23), contending for the faith (Jude 1:3), demolishing arguments against the knowledge of God (2 Corinthians 10:5), holding firmly to the true message of Scripture (Titus 1:9), and testing everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21; 1 John 4:1).<br /><br />We can let The Shack shape our view of God and we can defend it with passion. Or we can let the Bible shape our view of God and we can defend it with passion. I’m choosing the Bible.<br />Gail @ http://biblelovenotes.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462629145629813283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-19658764037767823482017-02-25T17:34:33.832-05:002017-02-25T17:34:33.832-05:00One of my daughters gave me this book for Christma...One of my daughters gave me this book for Christmas a few years ago. I read it, and much of it is completely unbiblical. My daughter had just heard from somebody that it was a great book, but hadn't read it, either, and so didn't know what it was really about.<br />I agree with this article.ursulamargrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02859784844977845957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-26505655077404799042017-02-25T12:54:18.270-05:002017-02-25T12:54:18.270-05:00It is a book of FICTION, a made up story. Some of ...It is a book of FICTION, a made up story. Some of you need to check your self righteousness. You sound like Pharisees! People could interpret anything the way they want. Perhaps it depends on perspective. The man loses his daughter in a horrific act. He loses his faith in God. How merciful of God to reach him where he is. His faith is restored and he now values his Relationship with God. Perhaps where the Shacks God says ",I have forgiven all humans for their sins through Jesus,but only some choose relationship." Jesus did die for ALL of our sins,and it is a choice for us to accept Jesus and a relationship with him. God doesn't send anyone to hell!! They send themselves, He allows it. The book compares a father/child relationship so that imperfect humans can understand. Also, truth be told, the only reason why any of us are saved is only because Jesus took our sin. Every human is a sinner, we all fit into a category of adulterers,etc.We are all sinners, not one is righteous, not one. That is what the Bible says. A's I said, it is a fictitious story, the author does not portray it as the spoken word of God. There are so many worse things in this world, such as people who profess to be Christ followers but are little more than hate mongers who are the reason why people unfortunately turn their backs on God,not because of stories of fiction.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06182812414047772598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2538057051911243767.post-6273158072310073932017-02-23T12:20:52.257-05:002017-02-23T12:20:52.257-05:00I have purchased this book, and read part of it. I...I have purchased this book, and read part of it. I ended up throwing it out, as I only got through it a little, and it was not Bibically correct. This made me mad as a Christian. Usually, before I read a book, I must know what the Authors beliefs are. In this case, I never checked it out. This was a mistake, and I will never do it again. I feel if you are writing a Christian book, your story and what it is trying to say to you had better follow God's Word exactly, and the author has to be saved and have that personal relationship with Jesus. This author does not have this and I will not go see the movie, it recommend it or the book to anyone. This book portrays beliefs straight from Satan and the pit of Hell. You are correct when you say it will cause people to go to Hell. In order to go to heaven, we must be saved God's way and follow his rules. In other words, in order to be saved we must accept Jesus is the Only way, repent, as God's Word says, and make him Lord of our life! There are so many movies and books out there, trying to portray God and heaven, that look and sound good, but is actually Satan and his demons, trying to deceive you from knowing the truth of God in order to take your soul to hell! This is demonic stuff, straight from hell ! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14485521389413940673noreply@blogger.com